I guess I’m just getting annoyed with all these young people with stars in their eyes
That’s great you want to do this thing, get in line with the other hundreds of people with the exact same goal
Its just overwhelming sometimes, seeing all these people, all can animate/going to school/whatever and I think
dude I’m one in thousands of people applying, I’m nothing special, do I really have the passion that these other people have? should I even try?
I may or may not have cried like a baby during the screening
I never saw little mermaid on the big screen
That’s John Musker and Ron Clements, aka the directors responsible for a lot of Disney Renaissance
They were sitting in front of me during the screening of the Little Mermaid
I HATE THOSE DREAMS WHERE SOMEONE IS STABBING YOU OR YOU’RE FALLING
AND YOU WAKE UP NOT BEING ABLE TO BREATHE FOR A SEC
one of the prints I was selling at the cons!
it made people laugh and that made me happy (´∀｀)
for those who do not know who cybersix is.
I always feel so pained when people don’t know Cybersix.
Cybersix is a forgotten national treasure of Canadian programming — it’s an unexpected collaboration between the Japanese studio TMS Animation and the Canadian animation network Teletoon. It’s a loose adaptation of the Argentine comic of the same name and cancelled only after a 13 episode season run (probably because it was too good to exist) and market distribution thereafter has been limited and obscure at best.
The MC is genderqueer/nonbinary who presents as a male teacher by day and a lady crime fighter by night, has a brother who also happens to be a panther who also fights crime, has a bara love interest who is drawn to both identities, the villains are ex-Nazi SS agents, AMAZING ANIMATION, and so many other great things.
Also the opening is gorgeous.
CYBERSIX IS A GIFFFTTTT.
Jesus, the last time I heard this themesong, I was trying to download it from napster.
If this show was airing today Tumblr would be ALL OVER THAT SHIT!!!
i remember this show omg .. definitely waaaaaaaay ahead of its time….
Ojibwe warned him.
Matthew’s tiny, still, but he’s fast enough, he’s got an eternity full of stories in his head and each one tells him never look back, and his land bends for him so he’s at the lake edge before he realizes it and then under the water fully clothed, breaking through the thin ice by throwing his entire body onto the lake surface.
It’s freezing, dark too, and his little fingers seize as he tries to dig his nails into the ice. He doesn’t want to look down, at the never-ending blackness, nor does Matthew want to look up, up to where he can still hear the howling wind, see Arthur’s eerie green gaze and his pulled maw.
(It’s his fault, it’s his fault, he thinks in terror, thinking of Arthur’s devastated face when Matthew ran out, thinking of Arthur’s unsteady grin when Matthew found him days later, the bodies of the search party around him, horse prints criss-crossing across the camp. What else could Matthew have done? He wasn’t strong enough to drag Arthur back, and Arthur would’ve died, and after all Arthur did…
Arthur came after him. He didn’t know what would happen, he came anyway, his colony’s name on his lips, he didn’t know but Matthew did. It’s his fault it’s his fault it’s his it’s his it’s—)
Matthew counts, trying to ease into something repetitive to steady him, but then the ice shakes when the world above screams, like the sky is being split in two, like the earth itself is shattering around him, and Matthew lets out a burst of breath when he starts to cry.
(Matthew wakes up hours later on the icy shore, a fur trapper holding him in his arms, and one of Ojibwe’s people at his side.
They take him back to Arthur. Arthur who looks wane but human—human from the lines at his eyes to the way he thanks the men to the way there is dried blood under his nails.
The relief in Arthur’s eyes devours him.)
im not even an artist and these prices are hurting my feelings
This is what I have to dig through every time I look for new jobs to apply for.
For non-artists, let’s give you a little perspective.
For me, an illustration takes a bare minimum of 6 hours. Mind you, that’s JUST the drawing part. Not the research, or the communications, or gathering information. Just drawing.
That’s if it’s a simple illustration.
My art deco or more detailed stuff can take 20+ hours each.
Even simple, cartoony things still take at least 3 hours.
Let’s go with the second one. 2 illustrations for $25. Figuring 6 hours each. 12 hours total, for JUST the drawings. That’s approximately $2.08/hour.
Asking these prices is an insult. But what’s even more hurtful is there are people out there that will take these jobs. Which only encourages rates like this to be acceptable. And there are people who will try to say these are just what you have to do to get started.
I believed that. So my first coloring gigs were just $10/page. The day someone offered me $25/page for just flatting work, I realized just how wrong I’d been. I’m still not making the rates I’d like, but now I refuse anything below $25/page. Because there is value in my time.
In any standardized industry, even ones that pay piece rate over hourly, these numbers are criminal.
Do your fellow artists a favor. Never accept jobs like these. There are others that pay legitimate rates. Or at least closer to legitimate.
Such baby bullshit. Don’t even get out of bed for these rates.
If you are an artist who wants to make money off their art, I highly suggest you buy The Graphic Artist’s Guild Handbook. It goes in depth about copyright issues and even contains contract and model release templates. The 2013 book *I believe* states the average professional charges $72 an hour. This article calculated that to make a 40k annual salary you would need to charge about $60 per hour.
After graduating from Art Center in 2012, I think I asked for somewhere between $35-45 an hour and got laughed at by multiple big name clients, which was infuriating, sadly expected, and terrifying with over $100K worth of student loans staring me in the face. If they tell you it will be “great exposure” that’s a red flag. Ask yourself how their exposure can compare to your Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, Flickr and Facebook pages combined?
And when you do get a decent paying gig, PROTECT YOURSELF. You have the right to negotiate and revise a contract. Do not start a job until you have a contract signed. If they don’t provide you with one, MAKE ONE. And make sure you have your bases covered. You can specify in a contract that maybe two revisions are included in your cost, and if they ask you to revise the piece more than twice, they will have to pay extra. In terms of payment schedule, I usually do the 50/50 Method (50% before, 50% after) or the 3/3/3 Method (1/3 before, 1/3 in the middle, 1/3 after all work has been received). Both of those are pretty standard in the industry, as they guarantee you will get compensated for your time, even if the job goes bad.
Remember you have a skill, and you have spent time honing that skill and you deserve to be adequately paid for that time and effort. You will have clients dismiss you because, honest to God they think, “Well, I could do that if I wanted. Hell, my five year old does it now.” No they can’t, because they didn’t, they don’t, they won’t and they probably never will. And good luck hiring a five year old. They can’t keep a fucking deadline.
And in a last ditch effort they’ll say, “But that drawing only took you an hour!” Son, that drawing took me 20. fucking. years.
10 Dollars for 1 minute of animation. Oh my god my heart. It took my team 6 months and a team of 12 to make a 4 minute short.
I second this book! I’ve had it for several years now, and it’s been a HUGE help in my work as a freelance artist. It gives great advice on what to charge for different areas of art!
Please remember. Your art is worth a respectable payment! Accepting ridiculously low prices actually hurts the arts/illustration/animation communities because it makes employers believe they can employ people without offering decent pay.
Check the internet if you need help figuring out what you should be charging for your commissions. Invest in the books that will inform you professionally, and put your foot down if you think someone is trying to cheat you out of your time and hard work.
You have a right to refuse a job, and/or request decent payment. If your employer denies a you decent pay, well then they’re probably not a very good employer.
Do not undersell your skills. it is bad for the art community and you are worth more then that.
would this book help you make that decision we were talking about?
Haha I already bought this book last year!! Its super informative (altho its catered to americans, there are some canadian things in there)
Thanks anyyway koosei!
Daleks with tea went by my booth yelling MOVE MOVE.
Also the red one said to someone taking a photo ‘just don’t take a picture of my backside’